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The Gun Control debate thread

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
And, do you have some proofs, some datas to back this claim ? Or did you just made it up and hope we'd be idiot enough to trust you just because you said "it's fact" ?

Well Johan I could go looking for the stats that I've already seen many times over many years and post them but I'm not going to.
You can look into it if you want.

But it's basic common sense really.
Most of the murders and other gun related crimes especially robbery are in the cities, mainly the poorer drug saturated areas.
Pick pretty much any city. Montgomery, Camden, LA, DC, Chicago, Baltimore ect.

And it's pretty clear that most of those murders and robberies aren't from arguments or jealousy. They are drug gang related, or drug addicts either in need of money for drugs or just high on drugs or involved in drugs.

People in general don't resort to murder. Sure there are some crazy people and people who are driven to murder by extreme situations but in general people don't go around shooting each other.
Most non criminals who own guns never shoot anyone. 9 out of 10 times the murderer or robber has the gun illegally.
And most of the time they are involved in drugs.

If you need stats for that look it up.

As far as the US GOV being the main source of drugs coming into the country just think about it.
Heroin for example. Most of it comes from Afghanistan. I grew up around drugs and I never even saw it.
It wasn't until after 2003 when the US invaded tat country that the heroin epidemic began. Now it's everywhere. That's no coincidence.
And in the 70's and 80's it was cocaine. The 80's crack epidemic.
You think they spent all that money to kill Pablo Escobar because he was hurting the USA?
He was competition.
Then you have the prescription drug epidemic now also.
Where do you think most of the pills people pop come from? Crooked pharmacists?
They come from people who get them paid for by the US GOV through entitlement programs and they sell them.

Why do they want to saturate the country with hard drugs?
1st and foremost it's money. A lot money to be made selling this stuff.
Plus all the money they spend in prisons and law enforcement and courts the The People pay for through taxation.
The "war on drugs" is a cash cow for all of those. It's their bread and butter man.
2nd it's to keep poor people in the ghettos where they want them and middle class people too fucked up on drugs to see what their GOV has become. Keep them in a state of willful ignorance.

I look around. I see what people write here and I think how can people be so blind or in denial.
Our GOV has become a Frankenstein Monster that we created. We should be controlling it not the other way around.
 

Mayhem

Banned
I'm not going to parse the entire post but I agree with a lot of what MP said ^^^. Not all of it, but a higher percentage than usual. The "War on Drugs" is one of the more malignant scams the GOV has ever perpetrated on a gullible public.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I'm not going to parse the entire post but I agree with a lot of what MP said ^^^. Not all of it, but a higher percentage than usual. The "War on Drugs" is one of the more malignant scams the GOV has ever perpetrated on a gullible public.

I have sot say, so do I.
 

eurynomos666

I should probably read the Board Rules...
They don't want Gun Control,they want Gun Ban and fortunately its against strong constitutional states that are in better conditions than IL,MI and OK,I said FRACKENED ones.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Glad some of my friends do agree with me on most of what I said ( I guess we're all friends here right?)
I don't blame anyone for not completely believing my belief that our GOV is source of most of the hard drugs in the USA.
But back to the big pic.

The 1st amendment (freedom of speech religion and freedom of the press) and the 2nd are the 2 strongest ones on that peice of parchment.
They really can't repeal either without officially declaring the country a fascist dictatorship or something similar.

But some genius had a great idea that by restricting gun ownership by putting it in the hands of the DHS they can bypass the 2nd amendment almost completely thanks to the Patriot Act.
Seen a shrink? No gun for you.
Been arrested? No gun for you.
Ever got in an arguement with your GF and the police were called?
Ever posted on a porn forum or liked a yootoob video that was anti establishment?
And hundreds of more reasons they can create to deny anyone the right to bear arms.

That's where we're at right now.
And that's a big reason (among many others) that I think most of the mass shootings the past 5 years or so are false flags or outright hoaxes.
This last one in FL and the one in Connecticut ,even right before and then immediately after the usual suspects began talking about putting the decision of who can get (and keep) guns with the DHS.
Every time they start to make it an issue again BOOM, another mass shooting by some lone nut who got their guns legally. The timing is always perfect to promote their cause .

Funny how pretty much all of us want a safer place to live no matter where we are, but some think making guns illegal will do that and some think that will make it much worse.
 

hawk2005

I’m a rocket-scientist!!
I have some friends in UK, they couldn't imagine having guns on the loose, whereas in the US guns are clearly needed
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I have some friends in UK, they couldn't imagine having guns on the loose, whereas in the US guns are clearly needed

I wouldn't really say that a gun is (truly) needed in the U.S., any more than it would be in the UK or Japan. But the cultures and histories are VERY different. And that's the part that many people have a hard time understanding and accepting. For better or worse, we're just different people, with different perspectives and views.
 

georges

Moderator
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Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
You're a fucking tool. Most of those "mass shootings" are murder/suicides. Yes, the incident rate of actual mass shootings is too high because some nutjob decides to shoot four or more people because they are gigantic pussies who can't cope with their own uselessness and instead of seeking psychological help they decide to go on a rampage. And while it is terrible and I feel awful for the victims and their families, I also know that many of them could have been saved if someone had reacted instantaneously instead of waiting for first responders. Studies have shown that the body count of active shooters is greatly reduced when someone with a concealed weapon stands up to them.

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

During the Clinton administration the threshold for a mass shooting was elevated to six people. That little move was designed to make their stupid law look effective.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
I wouldn't really say that a gun is (truly) needed in the U.S., any more than it would be in the UK or Japan. But the cultures and histories are VERY different. And that's the part that many people have a hard time understanding and accepting. For better or worse, we're just different people, with different perspectives and views.

yeah but studies have shown that the USA has more scumbags per capita than any other country.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
See Russia.....

Yup! I think several countries are ahead of us in that category.

Right now, I have India at the top of my list. Any place where they walk by steaks on legs while they starve ain't my kinda place... guns or no guns. And the next call I get from some mumble-mouthed Mumbai goof calling himself "Officer Mike" from the Federal IR of S, telling me how he's got an arrest warrant for me over unpaid taxes and I need to buy $4,000 worth of Google Play cards and give him the numbers... I'll see how well I can use some new words I've recently learned: madarchod (mudda fucka), bhenchod (sista fucka), betichod (daughta fucka).

Scummy little bastards. :mad:
 
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